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From Escape to Enlightenment: How Sobriety Fuels Authentic Creativity

Episode 003 of Clear Conversations with Kaitlyn Ramsay of Loving the Dark Parts

In my latest episode of Clear Conversations, I sat down with

, whose journey from corporate burnout to spiritual guide exemplifies how sobriety transforms not just our health, but our entire creative expression. After quitting her corporate job and buying a one-way ticket to Australia following a devastating breakup, Kaitlyn found herself in Thailand where her relationship with alcohol intensified—until her body literally wouldn't let her continue.

What began as health concerns evolved into a profound awakening. Now sober and based in Thailand, Kaitlyn combines astrology, coaching, and writing to help others rediscover their authentic selves. Her story reveals how removing substances doesn't limit creativity—it actually expands our capacity to create from a place of genuine presence and purpose.

Show Notes

[00:00:00] - Introduction and Welcome

  • Introducing Kaitlyn Ramsey and her journey from corporate life to spiritual guide

  • How a painful breakup led to quitting her job and booking a one-way ticket to Australia

  • Her evolution from escape-seeking to finding authentic purpose

[00:02:23] - The Turning Point: When Health Forces Change

  • Kaitlyn shares how her drinking escalated while living in Thailand's tourist culture

  • The wake-up call: passing out on a bar floor and subsequent hospital visits

  • Being diagnosed with depression, panic disorder, and insomnia—but choosing a different path to healing

[00:10:42] - Discovering Astrology as a Tool for Self-Knowledge

  • How sobriety and astrology became intertwined in Kaitlyn's recovery journey

  • Using astrology to "shine lights on certain parts of myself that maybe I had ignored"

  • Finding purpose in helping others discover themselves through astrological insights

[00:17:31] - The Creative Transformation in Sobriety

  • The dramatic difference in creative capacity after getting sober: "Like night and day"

  • How sobriety created mental and emotional space to hold ideas and inspiration

  • Discovering her true introverted nature after years of alcohol-fueled "extroversion"

[00:22:45] - Daily Practices That Support Sobriety and Creativity

  • Morning pages: Starting with small journals and gradually increasing capacity

  • Movement practices: Ballet, jazz dance, and Muay Thai training

  • The importance of setting yourself up for success with achievable practices

[00:28:08] - Working with Inner Critics and Self-Judgment

  • Recognizing that even critical inner voices have positive intentions

  • Questioning whether self-criticism is actually keeping us safe

  • Learning to have conversations with different parts of ourselves

[00:30:42] - Finding Beauty in Unexpected Places

  • Kaitlyn shares a story about how a dead cat taught her about beauty

  • How pausing and creating space led to a profound shift in perspective

  • Transforming an unpleasant task into a meaningful ritual of honoring life

Key Quotes

"For so long I just ignored every single signal until it was like, 'You're not ignoring this anymore'—you can't." - Kaitlyn Ramsey

"The biggest thing for me has just been the capacity. I feel like I just have so much more capacity and space to hold all of these ideas and things that are filtering through me. Whereas before I was just so overwhelmed." - Kaitlyn Ramsey

"I think setting ourselves up for success is important. I started with a tiny little notebook because there's no way I'm going to do three full-size pages. Now every time I finish a journal, I just get one size bigger." - Kaitlyn Ramsey

"I fully believe that even the critical parts of ourselves do have positive intentions and they just want us to keep us safe. But then it's like, is this actually keeping me safe? Do I need your advice right now?" - Kaitlyn Ramsey

Resources Mentioned

  • The Artist's Way by Julia Cameron (Morning Pages practice)

  • Mindfulness-Based Stress Reduction course

  • Elephant Journal (where Kaitlyn has published work)

  • Somatic practices and journaling for recovery support

  • Muay Thai training as a physical practice

Where to Find Kaitlyn

Thank You

A heartfelt thank you to everyone who joined us live for this conversation, and to

for her extraordinary openness and wisdom. Your presence and engagement make these conversations possible.


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